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#1 Familyman

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 9:10 PM

Should probably start thinking about this aspect of the build.

OneFiddy has been dead to the system for a while now, and I was wanting to know how one goes about re-registering the bitch.
I know nothing so where do I go, what do I need to provide, what will be checked on the car, etc etc,

And how much are we talking to get it all good again.

I still have the old plates, old rego card in window and even an old warrant sheet for her in case I need to prove she once lived here.

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 10:12 PM

Relevent to interests. +subscribe.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 7:30 AM

Um, dunno. Maybe do a google search of how to re-register a deregistered car?? Or call VTNZ/VINZ/AA etc.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 8:27 AM

Shale you should know didnt you have to get frank done?
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 8:32 AM

Nup. Frank was a holdburger. :P I just find that if these things are posted, they are at times helpful ;)
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 8:36 AM

This looks helpful....

http://www.oldschool...17088&view=next
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 8:35 PM

Having done this I can tell you the exact procedure

- If you weren't the owner when it was deregistered, you will need to get the police to confirm it is not a vehicle of interest. You need to take the old plate-number, or the vin-number with you to VTNZ and get them to produce a form that you can take to the police who must sign AND STAMP it, if it doesn't get stamped, you have to go back again.

- Once VTNZ have this, you can book the car in for a recompliance (must be a compliance centre, not just a VTNZ station), this is a 1-2 day procedure where they tear the car to bits to check for bends, missing bits and rust. (Leave a decent amount of gas in the tank, if the inspector takes it for a joyride and likes it, it may help you pass :P) Cost: ~$400, varies based on the shop.

- If you fail the recompliance, you will be told what you need to repair, if it is a structural repair it will require an engineer's cert, as will any previous structural repairs. You will not be given a check-sheet, and you may not drive the car on the road like you would if you failed a WoF.

- Once your car passes the recompliance, you will be given a valid WoF. You can then go through re-registration, this costs a fair bomb ($225 for 6mo back when 6months rego was $100), but gives you your plates, your registration sticker, and the right to drive on the road.

EDIT: Having read through some of the bullshit in the oldschool post, you can completely ignore it, if you have ANY panels missing when you go for recompliance, you will fail. Also, don't drive the car there, they may reject you for operating a deregistered vehicle.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 8:59 PM

I've re-registered two dead cars in the last few years, both of them Gen 1 Legacys. The process for the BF wagon was painful, considering I'd owned it for five years and driven it for two years before giving it to my son. He let the rego lapse in spite of my reminding him to put it on hold. Grrr.

Anyhooo, I booked it into the local VTNZ after talking to the manager about the VIN process. I should perhaps mention that I'd dealt with these guys for several years. I should also mention that it didn't help me one iota. He explained that the test for pre-1990 cars is essentially just a more detailed WOF, whereas the test for post-1990 cars involves stripping the interior, pulling the inner guard liners out, and pulling the brakes apart. Any evidence of corrosion or previous repairs are referred to a specialist independent inspector, who then determines what is required to bring the car up to an acceptable standard. He may also determine that the car is beyond reinstatement and refuse to pass the car.

In the case of the BF7, the VTNZ guy picked up on a previous repair to the front r/h corner, and referred me to an inspector, even though It was obvious that the repairs had been done years earlier. It's all fair game to these guys. So, I contacted an inspector and had a chat to him (This all costs extra, of course!). We arranged to meet at a local garage with a hoist, and he took one look at the chassis rail and said, "this won't ever be going back on the road!" When I pointed out that the same VTNZ had happily issued WOFs for the same car for the previous few years, he just fobbed that off and told me that a VIN inspection was a whole different ballgame. He was convinced that the chassis was bent, and almost as an afterthought got his measuring gear out to check it. He was shocked when it measured millimeter-perfect. He agreed to allow a local panelbeater to tidy the offending chassis rail up a bit, after which the car was passed. Ironically, this is the car I subsequently wrote off a few months later.

When we got the VIN for the BC Crowesport, we found a more reasonable VIN guy on the recommendation of a friend in the car importing business. That car was considerably easier to get through the process, and only required a new pair of brakepads 'cos they were too worn. Piece of cake by comparson . . . .
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 9:37 PM

very good info there, have to remember that, lucky i put mine on hold
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 12:17 AM

I've re-registered two dead cars in the last few years, both of them Gen 1 Legacys. The process for the BF wagon was painful, considering I'd owned it for five years and driven it for two years before giving it to my son. He let the rego lapse in spite of my reminding him to put it on hold. Grrr.

Anyhooo, I booked it into the local VTNZ after talking to the manager about the VIN process. I should perhaps mention that I'd dealt with these guys for several years. I should also mention that it didn't help me one iota. He explained that the test for pre-1990 cars is essentially just a more detailed WOF, whereas the test for post-1990 cars involves stripping the interior, pulling the inner guard liners out, and pulling the brakes apart. Any evidence of corrosion or previous repairs are referred to a specialist independent inspector, who then determines what is required to bring the car up to an acceptable standard. He may also determine that the car is beyond reinstatement and refuse to pass the car.

In the case of the BF7, the VTNZ guy picked up on a previous repair to the front r/h corner, and referred me to an inspector, even though It was obvious that the repairs had been done years earlier. It's all fair game to these guys. So, I contacted an inspector and had a chat to him (This all costs extra, of course!). We arranged to meet at a local garage with a hoist, and he took one look at the chassis rail and said, "this won't ever be going back on the road!" When I pointed out that the same VTNZ had happily issued WOFs for the same car for the previous few years, he just fobbed that off and told me that a VIN inspection was a whole different ballgame. He was convinced that the chassis was bent, and almost as an afterthought got his measuring gear out to check it. He was shocked when it measured millimeter-perfect. He agreed to allow a local panelbeater to tidy the offending chassis rail up a bit, after which the car was passed. Ironically, this is the car I subsequently wrote off a few months later.

When we got the VIN for the BC Crowesport, we found a more reasonable VIN guy on the recommendation of a friend in the car importing business. That car was considerably easier to get through the process, and only required a new pair of brakepads 'cos they were too worn. Piece of cake by comparson . . . .


I found the guys at VTNZ Silvia Park to be great, however the guys at VINZ Mt Wellington were outright arseholes. I failed on water in an indicator and a leaky shock :P... did get the car back with most of its fuel gone, but everywhere behind the panels, written in blue permanent marker was "AA" so I think it was in good nick :P
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 9:43 PM

Fanatastic info! Cheers guys.

looks like I'm in for a nightmare.

(mental note: Don't Use Cable Ties!) :P
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 8:14 PM

Just a thought, but do you guys think it would be easier to get a car re-vinned in a factory state and then after it is back on the road do all the mods and get it certed or would it be just as hard as doing the mods and getting it certed and re-vinned at the same time?
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 10:24 PM

Just a thought, but do you guys think it would be easier to get a car re-vinned in a factory state and then after it is back on the road do all the mods and get it certed or would it be just as hard as doing the mods and getting it certed and re-vinned at the same time?


they are likely to be much harder on your car if it is modified. And you can't get a dead car cert'd
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 2:40 AM

Wiretap, do you know where to find the applicable legislation that says you can't get a de-registered car certified?
a mate of mine has been told by a certification outfit that they will certify his rb20det engine in his Laurel (originally sr18i) and then he will be able to re-vin it.
i also was under the impression that this is not possible.
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 8:28 AM

You can't certify a vehicle without a valid license plate, not sure on the exact piece of legislation, but since the cert has to be bound to a live VIN number, it would be pretty difficult :P
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 9:44 PM

I can help you with the rego side of things; I work for the AA so deal with this all the time. If the Subi's plates are dead then the guys above are dead right, getting the car back on the road through compliance is a pricey deal and the guys are very thorough with what they check. Once the car has the WOF you’ll either shoot into AA or VTNZ, pricing for new plates 6months reg is $290.99 12 months is $431.06.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 9:59 PM

Fook me thats expensive
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:47 PM

My flatmate managed to succesfully re-vin his non turbo VX4 Mitsi with VR4 motor (turbo) and running gear, this was back in 2006, guess someone didn't know what they were doing :unsure:

and he had a external dumping strait into the air :blink: think someone had a hard night or something :lolz:
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Posted 14 June 2011 - 6:28 AM

My flatmate managed to succesfully re-vin his non turbo VX4 Mitsi with VR4 motor (turbo) and running gear, this was back in 2006, guess someone didn't know what they were doing :unsure:

and he had a external dumping strait into the air :blink: think someone had a hard night or something :lolz:


ahahaha thats one lucky man! should keep that one quiet someone up there could loose there job ! Nice work! :lolz:

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 10:07 PM


My flatmate managed to succesfully re-vin his non turbo VX4 Mitsi with VR4 motor (turbo) and running gear, this was back in 2006, guess someone didn't know what they were doing :unsure:

and he had a external dumping strait into the air :blink: think someone had a hard night or something :lolz:


ahahaha thats one lucky man! should keep that one quiet someone up there could loose there job ! Nice work! :lolz:


WOW!! :D
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