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#1 User is offline   wastegatee 

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 1:09 AM

hey guys/girls its been along time since iv posted on here but iv bin watching;)
i have completed a auto- manual conversion on my bf5 and am having trouble starting her!
i have a manual ecu, joined 2 inhibitior wires to get it fireing but im now at the point were i cant get it started. im wondering what i could have missed im at the point were il try anything i have good fuel and it was running in working order before!
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 4:52 AM

One post in one forum would have been enough.

In any case we need your symptoms. What is the car doing/not doing?
[20:30:58] <Pelvin> what are the handbrake shoes? are they only fitted on the rear?
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 5:34 AM

Car is turning over and trying to start but wont go.
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 6:28 AM

Crank and cam angle sensors all plugged in?
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 7:00 AM

Checked codes ?
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 7:02 AM

View PostWiretap, on 01 July 2017 - 4:52 AM, said:

One post in one forum would have been enough.

In any case we need your symptoms. What is the car doing/not doing?

sorry about multiple posting man i just thought i had put it in the wrong section
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 8:04 AM

If its turning over, then the problem has nothing to do with the MT conversion. Put your original ECU back in (there's no such thing as an auto ECU, they all have both AT and MT modes)
[20:30:58] <Pelvin> what are the handbrake shoes? are they only fitted on the rear?
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 8:09 AM

View PostWiretap, on 01 July 2017 - 8:04 AM, said:

If its turning over, then the problem has nothing to do with the MT conversion. Put your original ECU back in (there's no such thing as an auto ECU, they all have both AT and MT modes)

ok man thanks for that unfortunately i dont have the AT ecu anymore so i might need to source another one, so this could potentially be an issue then?
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 8:10 AM

View PostSammy, on 01 July 2017 - 7:00 AM, said:

Checked codes ?

no codes are showing
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 8:12 AM

[quote name='Pelvin' timestamp='1498886891' post='72657']
Crank and cam angle sensors all plugged in?
[/ everything appears to be in order but il triple check again
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 8:14 AM

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View PostWiretap, on 01 July 2017 - 8:04 AM, said:

If its turning over, then the problem has nothing to do with the MT conversion. Put your original ECU back in (there's no such thing as an auto ECU, they all have both AT and MT modes)

ok man thanks for that unfortunately i dont have the AT ecu anymore so i might need to source another one, so this could potentially be an issue then?

It's possible the replacement you sourced was faulty, yes
[20:30:58] <Pelvin> what are the handbrake shoes? are they only fitted on the rear?
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 8:19 AM

View PostWiretap, on 01 July 2017 - 8:14 AM, said:

View Postwastegatee, on 01 July 2017 - 8:09 AM, said:

View PostWiretap, on 01 July 2017 - 8:04 AM, said:

If its turning over, then the problem has nothing to do with the MT conversion. Put your original ECU back in (there's no such thing as an auto ECU, they all have both AT and MT modes)

ok man thanks for that unfortunately i dont have the AT ecu anymore so i might need to source another one, so this could potentially be an issue then?

It's possible the replacement you sourced was faulty, yes

The MT ecu was in working order as it was in another one of my running bf5s, i have a v2 555 sti ecu i am planning on using running a vos chip 3inch exhaust yellos and a td0520g would it be possible for me to install this and test it running a td04h and yellows? cheers
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 8:51 PM

Does the engine and gearbox have good ground? I had a similar problem, and a simple extension cord cut up with a couple of ring terminals fixed that pretty good! lol
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  Posted 01 July 2017 - 9:40 PM

View PostDundaberg, on 01 July 2017 - 8:51 PM, said:

Does the engine and gearbox have good ground? I had a similar problem, and a simple extension cord cut up with a couple of ring terminals fixed that pretty good! lol

I dont think the gearbox has and grounds on/ off it? Wer would I begin lol
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Posted 02 July 2017 - 12:53 AM

View Postwastegatee, on 01 July 2017 - 9:40 PM, said:

View PostDundaberg, on 01 July 2017 - 8:51 PM, said:

Does the engine and gearbox have good ground? I had a similar problem, and a simple extension cord cut up with a couple of ring terminals fixed that pretty good! lol

I dont think the gearbox has and grounds on/ off it? Wer would I begin lol






Generally there is an earth wire that goes from gearbox to chassis and one that goes engine to chassis/battery. Doesnt have to be anything in particular just linking all the metal objects together seeing the engine&box are only connected to the car via rubber mounts which dont conduct electricity
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Posted 02 July 2017 - 11:32 PM

You say it turns over and won't fire, so inhibitor switch bypass will be fine. Then as wiretap says, your manual conversion has nothing to do with it. Did you butcher the loom when you swapped ECU's? Smash a loom plug in the engine bay when swapping trans?
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Posted 03 July 2017 - 8:32 AM

View PostReuben, on 02 July 2017 - 11:32 PM, said:

You say it turns over and won't fire, so inhibitor switch bypass will be fine. Then as wiretap says, your manual conversion has nothing to do with it. Did you butcher the loom when you swapped ECU's? Smash a loom plug in the engine bay when swapping trans?

no just swapped the ecus over was straight forward, i defiantly have no spark i pulled plugs out after cranking it over and there was fuel on them. im going to buy new plugs get the old original ecu and also reset timing just incase it was slightly out as i redid the belt ect. what else could be the reason for no spark cheers
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Posted 03 July 2017 - 8:34 AM

View PostDundaberg, on 02 July 2017 - 12:53 AM, said:

View Postwastegatee, on 01 July 2017 - 9:40 PM, said:

View PostDundaberg, on 01 July 2017 - 8:51 PM, said:

Does the engine and gearbox have good ground? I had a similar problem, and a simple extension cord cut up with a couple of ring terminals fixed that pretty good! lol

I dont think the gearbox has and grounds on/ off it? Wer would I begin lol




Generally there is an earth wire that goes from gearbox to chassis and one that goes engine to chassis/battery. Doesnt have to be anything in particular just linking all the metal objects together seeing the engine&box are only connected to the car via rubber mounts which dont conduct electricity


ok in have installed one earth from box to firewall do u suggest installing one more? cheers
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Posted 19 July 2017 - 8:48 PM

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